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andriesm | 4 months ago

American Citizens have the right to offensive free speech in America, a foreigner wishing to obtain a VISA does not and would be an idiot to think he should be allowed to visit if he was posting things like "f... ck America"

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aarond0623|4 months ago

The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech."

It's not a right granted to only certain groups. It's a restriction on what Congress, and by extension the government, can do.

mothballed|4 months ago

Ackshually there is part of the first amendment that applies to certain people, specifically the right for "the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The courts have prior held that non-immigrant visas and illegal immigrants usually aren't "the people" referenced by the constitution, which is why they have no right to bear arms which also uses "the people" in reference to the people with that right. If they don't have the right to bear arms, it follows they are not "the people" and thus have no implicit protection to parts of the first amendment that explicitly assign protection to "the people."

It may be up for interpretation whether the immigrants in question were petitioning the government for grievances, if so that may have not been protected if they are not people.

IT4MD|4 months ago

Ahhh.. 1A, but only for specific groups, in specific contexts, as long as you're ok with it. Yes, that's exactly what they meant when they wrote it. le sigh.

I hope your enjoying the current state of the country. It's people just like you that brought it about, so carry on with the winning!