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novia | 4 months ago

Which crimes do you think are victimless exactly?

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timschmidt|4 months ago

Wikipedia has some good examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victimless_crime

Definitions differ person to person, but many things we consider benign today like sexual activities between consenting adults, racial integration, even free travel have at times and in places been considered crimes.

Today, homelessness is often criminalized. As is drug use even among otherwise productive law abiding citizens. Assisted suicide is often criminalized, even for terminally ill and suffering consenting adults.

1718627440|4 months ago

I think it really depends on what you consider to be a victimless crime. I think nobody considers the same thing both to be a crime and a victimless crime. For example the article discusses adultery. There is obviously a third person harmed there, it only matters whether you care about that enough. Same with drug use. Drug use forces people to do other crimes and also invites people to take drugs that wouldn't otherwise, whether you consider these to be victims is on you of course.

immibis|4 months ago

Think of smoking marijuana on your balcony at home. Society does not get better if we punish that more - or at all. That just shouldn't be a crime to begin with. You also shouldn't do it, because smoking is bad for you, but that's not a reason to make it a crime.

Though it may be that a better society makes fewer people want to smoke.

1718627440|4 months ago

You do pay people growing plants that don't provide a good to society and you do alter your state of mind which affects others and you do destroy your health a cost which also payed by others.