[ImaCake]

> LLMs struggle with simplicity in my experience

I think a lot of this is because people (and thus LLMs) use verbosity as a signal for effort. It's a very bad signal, especially for software, but its a very popular signal. Most writing is much longer than it needs to be, everything from SEO website recipes, consulting reports, and non-fiction books. Both the author and the readers are often fooled into thinking lots of words are good.

It's probably hard to train that out of an LLM, especially if they see how that verbosity impressess the people making the purchasing decisions.

[Terr_]

> I think a lot of this is because people (and thus LLMs) use verbosity as a signal for effort.

It's also one of the main use-cases for non-programmer use of the models, so there are business-forces against toning it down. Ex: "Make a funny birthday letter for my sister Suzie who's turning 50."