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jryb | 4 months ago

You’re not seeing all the other candidate treatments that made things worse. If it just gives everyone a heart attack immediately the question would be, why didn’t you try this out on mice first?

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adastra22|4 months ago

My body, my choice. I get the restriction on marketing and selling until some degree of safety and perhaps efficacy is demonstrated. But I should be allowed to choose to take the treatment if offered for free, even without any previous study.

intended|4 months ago

Your body your choice has no application here. No one is compromising your bodily autonomy.

The regulation is to ensure a working marketplace - which is fundamentally a collection of humans interacting.

The regulation is to prevent predictable abuses of market power.

coldtea|4 months ago

>My body, my choice

This is not available to you yet. Their drug, their choice.

more_corn|4 months ago

You can. The restriction is on anyone else offering it to you. Theres a long tradition of medical researchers experimenting on themselves. Barry Marshall was so sure bacteria could cause ulcers that he consumed said bacteria, and gave himself ulcers in order to cure them with antibiotics.

There’s also a FDA provision for treatment of last resort. If you’ve got a terminal condition with no approved treatment and there’s a possible treatment of unknown safety and effectiveness you can apply and get that treatment.

If you or a loved one has Alzheimer’s I highly encourage you to request this treatment. You’ll be risking unknown side effects and or death, but it will generate data for those who come after and could advance the treatment of this terrible disease by a decade.

samus|4 months ago

Nobody will offer it to you though. And if they don't even get it to work in an animal model, then for all intents and purposes it doesn't even exist.

b112|4 months ago

The main reason for all of this, is scams. Nutjobs without any medical background making claims without any scientific evidence.

Or scam artists putting sawdust from a "special tree" into a bottle, and saying it cured his aunt, so it will cure you! If you look at the history of such things, it's just a constant battle against people being fleeced out of money.

Con artists (and some of these wear lab coats and are quite professional in appearance and speak) know that desperation means easy prey. It's disgusting, but there it is.

And it wasn't just a little problem. It was a huge problem. If the legal framework we have in place was torn down, you'd see all that re-emerge in a second.

I agree that there should indeed be a way to balance snail oil salesman techniques, with the choice of someone in a dire circumstance. I did once read that there are FDA approved methods to get in on early stage/pre-clinical trials. These are targeted for people with severe conditions. People aren't being heartless here.

But at the same time, loved ones will litigate to get money back from scam artists. This also includes going after doctors or facilities or anyone willing to enable such actions. And if treatments go sideways, and no one validated that it was anything more than made up gibberish? The lawsuits will fly then, too. The cops may follow.

And it should be this way

Truth is, you are free to imbibe and consume anything you want. No one can really stop you. And whatever method is being used here, I'm sure you could replicate it, buy the hardware, and so on. You are free to do this.

It's just that no one wants to help.

So you are free.