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agigao | 4 months ago

This is why I never bought anything Amazon owned, other than Kindles; and I have dropped the latter, too.

I was always suspicious of Ring and never understood the people using it.

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gilfoy|4 months ago

My entire neighborhood came with ring doorbells pre installed and eero routers.

I swapped out to the Logitech doorbell which I like better anyway

Aachen|4 months ago

Here in the Netherlands, the government gave them away for free

They're also illegal because you're not allowed to film public spaces without a good reason (it's up to the judge and case law to decide, e.g. if there has been arson in the area recently then it's reasonable to monitor your car that's parked at the kerb, for example). Nobody has yet gotten in trouble to my knowledge

Gotta love hypocrisy

troyvit|4 months ago

So like it just came with the houses as they were built? If that's the case I wonder what kind of deal Ring make with the builders of new neighborhoods.

WarOnPrivacy|4 months ago

> This is why I never bought anything Amazon owned

I buy their mice. They've been good mice and I'm increasingly unhappy with Logitech.

Occasionally I buy some cables. I think that's it.

IT4MD|4 months ago

Agreed. Ring has a proven track record of giving up whatever video law enforcement wants, regardless of your choice or privacy laws.

If it was free, I could almost understand. Nothing is free, and if it cost the customer nothing, then the customer is the product. However, people paid for Ring gear and as a thanks have their privacy violated with no notice, no info and no choice.

array_key_first|4 months ago

Forget law enforcement, for years they allowed all their employees to access literally any camera whenever they want.

There were women being stalked by ring employees. It was that bad. Teslas had (has?) a similar problem.