[mkbelieve]

I don't understand how anyone can believe that we're near even a whiff of AGI when we barely understand what dreaming is, or how the human brain interacts with the quantum world. There are so many elements of human creativity that are still utterly hidden behind a wall that it makes me feel insane when an entire industry is convinced we're just magically going to have the answer soon.

The people heralding the emergence of AGI are doing little more than pushing Ponzi schemes along while simultaneously fueling vitriolic waves of hate and neo-luddism for a ground-breaking technology boom that could enhance everything about how we live our lives... if it doesn't get regulated into the ground due to the fear they're recklessly cooking up.

[hackinthebochs]

Big scientific revolutions tend to happen before we understand the relevant mechanisms. It is only after the fact that we develop a theory to understand how it works. AGI will very likely follow the same trend. Enough people are throwing enough things at the wall that eventually something will stick.

[kovek]

There's many different definitions of "AGI" that people come up with, and some include dreaming, quantum world, creativity, and some do not.

[throwaway-0001]

We Dont know how a horse works, but we got cars. Analogy doesn’t work.

[giardini]

What's your point here? Be careful: language w/o analogy might be impossible. But both are asides to the ongoing discussion.