[alphabettsy]

> current left-wing philosophy that provides any sort of meaningful place or role for masculinity as it is commonly understood

I think this strongly depends on your reality and perception.

How is masculinity commonly understood and what examples do you have of the left and democrats not making space?

On the other side, how can you not see examples of toxic masculinity demonstrated from prominent Republicans including the president?

[tharne]

> How is masculinity commonly understood and what examples do you have of the left and democrats not making space?

What would you say is the Democratic or progressive view of masculinity and where does it fit in the progressive or liberal worldview?

As a former Democrat, that's not a question I can even begin to answer, because I don't think Democrats,liberals, or progressives see any value in or a role for masculinity. Simply pointing to the other side and saying, "there's some bad guys over there" is not a meaningful retort.

[alphabettsy]

I’m asking you to provide evidence for your claim.

Personally, I don’t see Democrats talking about masculinity that seems to be an obsession of the right.

I think it’s a meaningful because some of the people talking about masculinity and how the Democrats or the liberals want to take that away or get rid of it have often been the worst examples of it in my opinion. I also think it’s worth noting the leaders of political parties and how they themselves represent the values they claim to be fighting for.