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'Dangerous design choices' trapped teens in Cybertruck crash, lawsuit claims

13 points| CoffeeOnWrite | 4 months ago |oaklandside.org

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jqpabc123|4 months ago

Basic aspects of auto design, safety and functionality have been refined by over a century of real world experience and testing.

Changes should be considered and evaluated very carefully, particularly where user safety is concerned.

Tesla has failed to do this and has boldly "fixed" some things that didn't need fixing in my opinion.

An obvious example is door latches. Exiting the vehicle under duress should be as intuitive as possible without written instructions. Expecting passengers to read the manual beforehand is simply absurd and indicative of a basic design failure.

Another is moving basic driving feedback info (like speed and range) out of the driver's typical line of sight.

But one of the most egregious is mis-labeling driver assistance as "Full Self Driving" which even they admit is purely aspirational at this point.

Will Tesla robots be labeled "Sentient" when they clearly are not?

metalman|4 months ago

current "design" of motor viehicles has nothing to do with function and saftey, and is bieng driven by sales teams looking for "features" to sell, and sell again through subscriptions, screens that are exclusivly distractions, and the most basic and essential requirements lost like getting in and out, where now it is clear that this is bieng activly interfered with, as it is a major "interactive moment" not to be lost or sqandered without forecing user engagement

SoftTalker|4 months ago

Swiss cheese model of accident cause:

Hole #1 grandpa lets teenage grandson take cybertruck out for a night with friends

Hole #2 kid driver gets rip-roaring drunk

Hole #3 other kids get in the car with drunk driver

Hole #4 drunk kid drives cybertruck into a concrete wall

Hole #5 Tesla makes manual door releases hard to find.

All those thing lined up for those kids. Any one of them could have been a point where doing something different prevents this outcome.

more_corn|4 months ago

So yes. Manual door releases are hard to find in an emergency, trapping occupants so they die unnecessarily in burning vehicles.

Perhaps we should all acknowledge that part out loud and prioritize making the manual release easy to find when you’re clawing desperately at the door as you burn to death.

salawat|4 months ago

And coincidentally, only one of those is industrially mass produced warranting avoidance and remediation. Even if younglings being younglings, we shouldn't be making deathtrap vehicles optimized for incinerating occupants.

amenhotep|4 months ago

2, 3 and 4 are very highly correlated, doesn't really fit the Swiss cheese model.