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thekevan | 4 months ago

Your marriage is a decision between you and your spouse and is a mutual decision.

A job is a decision that your boss(es) made and can be taken without your consent. You don't have the ownership of your job that you do of your marriage.

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recursivegirth|4 months ago

Both marriage and job contracts are mutually binding legal agreements. You have the agency within those dynamics that the law gives you, which varies by region/jurisdiction respectively.

Your partner in some (most?) cases can absolutely make an executive decision that ends your marriage, with you having no options but to accept the outcome.

Your argument falls a little flat.

Imustaskforhelp|4 months ago

I think I have discovered gold in the comments

Someone makes a comment about how its okay for things to be replaced in specialization in business

Then someone equates it to intimacy

Then someone says its only possible in HN

Then we get into some nifty discussion of can we argue about the similarity between marriage and job contracts and first they disagree

Now we come to your comment which I can kinda agree about and here is my take

Marriage and business both require some definition of laws and a trust in state which comes out of how state has a monopoly (well legal monopoly) over violence and how it can punish people who don't follow laws over it and how the past record of it handling cases have been

As an example, I doubt how marriages can be a good mutually binding legal agreement in something like saudi arabia which is mysognistic. Same can be said for exploitations in businesses for countries, same countries like saudia arabia and qatar have some people from south asia like india etc. in a sort of legal slavery where they are forced to reside in their own designated quarters of the country and they are insanely restricted. Look it up.

Also off topic but I asked LLM's to find countries where divorce for women are illegal and I confirmed it, as an example, divorce in philipines for non muslims are banned (muslim woman's divorces are handled via sharia law) I have since fact checked it as well via searching but it's just that divorce itself isn't an option in philipines but rather limiting marital dissolution to annulment or legal separation

"In the Philippines, the general legal framework under the Family Code prohibits absolute divorce for the majority of the population, limiting marital dissolution to annulment or legal separation " [1]

[1]: source: https://www.respicio.ph/commentaries/divorce-under-muslim-pe...

great_wubwub|4 months ago

I'm not sure where you live, but employee contracts in the US are very rare in tech. Unions, execs, and rock stars - that's about it. The rest of us are at-will and disposable. Worker protections in the US are limited to "the machine can't eat more than two of your fingers per day" and "you can't work people more than 168 hours in a week".

thekevan|4 months ago

>...job contracts are mutually binding legal agreements.

That is not true far more often than it is true.

beeflet|4 months ago

Impressive word games at play here, I almost didn't notice that you fail to explain what the actual difference is here.

A job is also a mutual decision between the employee and the employer.

A marriage can also be taken without your consent through divorce (unless you are orthodox jewish or something I think?).

latexr|4 months ago

> can be taken without your consent.

Note that isn’t universally true, for either case. Without mutual agreement, in the EU you can’t fire someone just because, and in Japan you can’t divorce unless you have proof of a physical affair or something equally damming.

aoeusnth1|4 months ago

You don’t own your marriage either? What exactly is the distinction you’re trying to make here, that you can hang onto your marriage even if your spouse doesn’t want it?

ako|4 months ago

Bosses should be able to make decisions about jobs or AI. That ok.

But as a society we have to ask ourselves if replacing all jobs with AI will make for a better society. Life is not all about making as much money as possible. For a working society citizen need meaning in their lives, and safety, and food, and health. If most people get too little of this, it may disrupt society, and cause wars and riots.

This is where government needs to step in, uncontrolled enterprise greed will destroy countries. But companies don´t care, they'll just move to another country. And the ultra-rich don´t care, they'll just put larger walls around their houses or move country.