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neverminder | 4 months ago

You can argue about Hetzner's uptime, but you can 't argue about Hetzner's pricing which is hands down the best there is. I'd rather go with Hetzner and cobble up together some failover than pay AWS extortion.

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Lio|4 months ago

For the price of AWS you could run Hetzner, a second provider for resiliancy and still make a large saving.

Your margin is my opportunity indeed.

k4rli|4 months ago

I switched to netcup for even cheaper private vps for personal noncritical hosting. I'd heard of netcup being less reliable but so far 4 months+ uptime and no problems. Europe region.

Hetzner has the better web interface and supposedly better uptime, but I've had no problems with either. Web interface not necessary at all either when using only ssh and paying directly.

benterix|4 months ago

Exactly. Hetzner is the equivalent of the original Raspberry Pi. It might not have all fancy features but it delivers and for the price that essentially unblocks you and allows you to do things you wouldn't be able to do otherwise.

motorest|4 months ago

> I'd rather go with Hetzner and cobble up together some failover than pay AWS extortion.

Comments like this are so exaggerated that they risk moving the goodwill needle back to where it was before. Hetzner offers no service that is similar to DynamoDB, IAM or Lambda. If you are going to praise Hetzner as a valid alternative during a DynamoDB outage caused by DNS configuration, you would need to a) argue that Hetzner is a better option regarding DNS outages, b) Hetzner is a preferable option for those who use serverless offers.

I say this as a long-time Hetzner user. Herzner is indeed cheaper, but don't pretend that Herzner let's you click your way into a highly-availale nosql data store. You need non-trivial levels of you're ow work to develop, deploy, and maintain such a service.

1dom|4 months ago

> but don't pretend that Herzner let's you click your way into a highly-availale nosql data store.

The idea you can click your way to a highly available, production configured anything in AWS - especially involving Dynamo, IAM and Lambda - is something I've only heard from people who've done AWS quickstarts but never run anything at scale in AWS.

Of course nobody else offers AWS products, but people use AWS for their solutions to compute problems and it can be easy to forget virtually all other providers offer solutions to all the same problems.

esskay|4 months ago

Are you Netflix? Because is not theres a 99% probability you dont need any of those AWS services and just have a severe case of shiny object syndrome in your organisation.

Plenty of heavy traffic, high redundancy applications exist without the need for AWS (or any other cloud providers) overpriced "bespoke" systems.

ViewTrick1002|4 months ago

If you need the absolutely stupid scale DynamoDB enables what is the difference compared to running for example FoundationDb on your own using Hetzner?

You will in both cases need specialized people.

mschuster91|4 months ago

> Hetzner offers no service that is similar to DynamoDB, IAM or Lambda.

The key thing you should ask yourself: do you need DynamoDB or Lambda? Like "need need" or "my resume needs Lambda".

sreekanth850|4 months ago

TBH, in my last 3 years with Hetzner, i never saw a downtime to my servers other than myself doing some routin maitenance for os updates. Location Falkenstein.

ratg13|4 months ago

And I have seen them delete my entire environment including my backups due to them not following their own procedures.

Sure, if you configure offsite backups you can guard against this stuff, but with anything in life, you get what you pay for.

whizzter|4 months ago

You really need your backup procedures and failover procedures though, a friend bought a used server and the disk died fairly quickly leaving him sour.

briHass|4 months ago

What is the Hetzner equivalent for those in Windows Server land? I looked around for some VPS/DS providers that specialize in Windows, and they all seem somewhat shady with websites that look like early 2000s e-commerce.