[miga]

Because 8GiB is insufficient for most work in 2025, so cheap Macbook is simply better Chromebook at this point: https://videocardz.com/newz/pcgh-demonstrates-why-8gb-gpus-a...

And 16GiB VRAM insufficient for games:

https://videocardz.com/newz/pcgh-demonstrates-why-8gb-gpus-a...

Also, 3nm M4 is going head-to-head with older Ryzen AI 365 in everything except for power efficiency: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m4-vs-amd-ryzen-...

When compared in multicore against Ryzen AI Pro laptops (high end), even Apple M5 are behind in the dust...

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_ai_max_p...

Despite awesome progress with its latest ARM processors, Apple was caught behind Ryzen, and is threatened by next generation of Zen processors.

[NaomiLehman]

except real life performance is not about nm process (this is almost completely irrelevant) or benchmarks.

I load my DuckDB into RAM and I'm mindblown at the speed that I can run data analysis on it due to RAM bandwidth and the fact that it's SoC, so almost no bottleneck between RAM and the CPU. Dozens of seconds on a $5k PC compared to milliseconds on a $2k Mac.

Not to mention that Windows 11 is a very weird OS.

Linux is great for some usecases, but doesn't utilize the hardware in the same way as other OSs.

I have all OSs at home and the difference is stupendous.

[seec]

If the task takes "dozens of seconds" on the PC, there is no way it is shortened to millisecond on the Mac. Unless you purposefully make it a bad comparison to favor the Mac.

I'm going to call it and say that you are full of shit. The improvements seem to come from the software: https://duckdb.org/2024/06/26/benchmarks-over-time

If you were to benchmark 2 current comparable machines, the difference would be negligible.