[dchftcs]

This is a poor analogy. Magnus Carlsen stays because chess consumers decide to pay for humans even though they are inferior to Stockfish. BigCorp will always pick machine over you if they can.

[manojlds]

Yeah. Coding is not a sport. Even if it is (Leetcode competitions or something), as in chess, it is the top 100 or so that can make money and survive.

[codeclimber]

I agree, that was a weak analogy. Magnus stays employed because chess fans value watching humans compete, not because engines didn't replace his capabilities.

I've updated the post title to "Train with coding assistants like Magnus Carlsen trains with chess engines" to focus on the main point: the methodology. Magnus uses chess engines as sparring-partners to improve his game after matches. Same can be done by developers who will use coding assistants to level up their skills.

Thanks for calling this out.

[kcplate]

Yes, but it’s also a poor analogy in the sense that AI hasn’t replaced one of the best of the best but has easily surpassed the playing capabilities of every fair, average, and above average player out there.

I am not worried about AI replacing the best of the best any time soon, I’m worried about it replacing the fair to middling…relatively soon.

[codeclimber]

Companies automate the parts that are commodity. On messy product work (drifting specs, integration, liability), human + AI + good process > AI alone. The machine proposes; the human sets goals, constrains risk, writes/reads tests. That combo ships faster and with fewer costly mistakes than letting an ai free-run.

[Retric]

Productivity replaces people, if you get more done from a team of 5 than your old team of 10 you generally fire 5 people.

Programmers have significantly higher unemployment than the general workforce today, but it’s hitting a wide swath of white collar jobs and that’s not going away. The industrial revolution replaced manual labor, so people moved to more mentally challenging jobs but AI can eventually replace anybody from CEO’s on down.

[317070]

> BigCorp will always pick machine over you if they can.

But, people might not always prefer BigCorp over humans, if they can?

[kcplate]

Never underestimate how many people will gladly accept inferior quality for a lower price.

[jacquesm]

> even though they are inferior to Stockfish

They're not.

[NickC25]

Magnus's peak rating was 2882.

Stockfish is currently rated 3644.

Lc0/AlphaZero was estimated to be rated 3800.

Stockfish would destroy Magnus even with queen odds.

[Powdering7082]

With respect to winning a game of chess?

[manojlds]

What do you mean they are not?