[allenrb]

I’m not even sure what to say to this. They’re barely short of orbit in terms of energy. Even if you believe that’s all they’ve got or will ever have, merely removing the recovery hardware and robustness from Ship gets them to orbit with payload.

Otoh, maybe best to just believe what you want to. That’s sort of what we do these days, isn’t it?

[ekjhgkejhgk]

> merely removing the recovery hardware and robustness from Ship

I mean if you have to remove important parts to get to orbit, you can't say that you could get to orbit. You couldn't, you just admited that you'd have to remove such and such. What am I missing?