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dirtyoldmick | 4 months ago

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elaus|4 months ago

As someone not from the US and looking from the outside: it seems there is a _significant_ difference between the two administrations in this regard?

parineum|4 months ago

Escalation always happens.

The classified documents thing with Trump was a manufactured scandal, for example. Everyone in our government is mishandling classified documents because we have a massive over-classification problem, as seen by the lesser reported and covered subsequent finding of Biden having documents.

Only one of those events was associated with a televised raid (which the press was notified of beforehand so they could be sure to film it).

It was all theater.

It's the same with Trump's prosecution in NY, that case was ridiculous. One deed expanded into 37 misdemeanors that were escalated to a felony because they were committed in an effort to cover up an alleged felony. I say alleged because he was never convicted of the original crime but, conveniently, that's not a requirement of that escalation in NY law.

Ironically, both of those cases only increased Trump's support among non-Democrats (Republicans and, importantly, independents) because it was transparent.

Here's a quote for the NY AG that sued Trump.

> "We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," [0]

That sounds an awful lot like she went looking for crimes of a person rather than finding who's responsible for crimes. And threatening his family as well.

[0]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/incoming-new-y... as well,"

SanjayMehta|4 months ago

As another someone from the outside looking in, the difference is in the reporting in the old media.

Biden had the support of the media and his lawfare and misdeeds were glossed over.

One example was the Hunter Biden laptop. Nord Stream pipeline sabotage was another.

Trump's shenanigans are just getting more attention. But to be fair, his shenanigans are dialled up to 11 while Biden was at a more modest 8.

throw0101c|4 months ago

> Like Biden didn't weaponize the justice department first?!

Out of genuine curiosity: what specific actions do you think were 'weaponized' investigations / prosecutions under Biden?

jayd16|4 months ago

I think the Clintons might take issue with who was weaponizing the justice department when. From Starr to Bengazi...

Like, do you truly believe Biden started this? What was the first act?

luddit3|4 months ago

He prosecuted his own son.

bmelton|4 months ago

If you assume that Biden had influence on the prosecution, then we should not forget that the original deal posed by the DOJ was for Hunter to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges for which he would have received 2 years probation, and pre-trial diversion on the federal gun charges.

The judge threw this out, but those are pretty generous terms for what penultimately amounted to guilty charges on 6 felonies and 6 misdemeanors (before all charges were pardoned.)

nomdep|4 months ago

... and pardoned the moment it was declared guilty.

margalabargala|4 months ago

Let's say for a moment he did.

Shouldn't that be fixed rather than now abused further?

If your justification for Trump doing something is that "Biden did it first", then that means Biden is no worse than Trump. It means Trump just just following along the path Biden laid for him to the same goal.

ahmeneeroe-v2|4 months ago

No. If you don't use a weapon that your enemy will use, you will lose. It's a matter of survival.

ahmeneeroe-v2|4 months ago

The left doesn't acknowledge any of that.

ModernMech|4 months ago

For the left to acknowledge something, a specific claim would have to be made and proved. The opposition party standing up a congressional committee with a scary name and making a bunch of press conferences doesn't prove anything.

FranzFerdiNaN|4 months ago

It’s because it’s nonsense. It’s just yet another case of accusations from the far right being a confession.