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irons | 4 months ago

In the US, V2L limits your ability to output power from the car to about 1500 W. It's not going to power your house as more than a stopgap, even if you do have supplementary house batteries. V2H/V2G justify their complexity by solving that problem, along with all the ancillary grid benefits.

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torginus|4 months ago

Not sure if that's the case - however doing V2L requires the manufacturer to add an inverter to the car, and making that powerful probably adds extra cost most customers wouldn't pay. TI just looked it up and my Ioniq can only do about 2kW sustained - but since this charges the house battery, that's enough - idle load is just a couple hundred watts.

nandomrumber|4 months ago

If the car charges the house battery, what charges the car?

Dylan16807|4 months ago

A typical house averages less than 1500W. And most of the higher usage overlaps the sun being out. So if you have supplemental house batteries to handle bursts then 1500W of V2L can go a very long way.

eldaisfish|4 months ago

the average hides a lot of information. the largest peak load is often an electric stove, which is regularly greater than 1,500 kW.

Also, this idea that higher usage overlap with the sun being out is laughably wrong. Solar noon is between 11 AM and 2 PM. Very few people are home at that time. There is a reason that peak grid demand in almost every country is in the early evening.

nandomrumber|4 months ago

> And most most of the higher usage overlaps the sun being out.

Aren’t most people at work / school when the sun is out?