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froggertoaster | 4 months ago

Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

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mcmcmc|4 months ago

If you’re not fine with criminals who get away with fraud, why vote for a well known fraudster? He’s been conning people since the 80s

0xTJ|4 months ago

He was clear about how he intended to run the country in his last term. And in the lead-up to the election. You are complicit in his crimes.

smt88|4 months ago

People are going to pile on you for not seeing this coming, but I really do appreciate your ability to change your mind and tell people about it.

People need space to make a U-turn. I hope you get some grace because it's a lot easier to say "I told you so" than "I was wrong."

silverquiet|4 months ago

I don't see where the GP changed their mind. They may not be ok with this particular action while still preferring the current administration to any alternative.

Hikikomori|4 months ago

How wasn't his first 4 years enough time?

HDThoreaun|4 months ago

> People need space to make a U-turn

The problem is we dont believe him. There has been ample time to make a u turn. A decade at this point. Trump has never shied away from his corruption. He has been upfront about his intentions from the beginning. I just do not believe that this is the straw that broke the camels back when so many straws have come before.

cthalupa|4 months ago

Serious set of questions here from someone desperately trying to understand people who voted for Trump and how to have conversations with them that can be productive. None of them are meant to be insulting or insinuate anything.

To me, this sort of behavior just seems par for the course for how he has been acting since before his presidency. Did you follow his record in business and politics closely prior to voting for him? If so, what mitigating factors were there that let you still feel comfortable in voting for him?

Is this an isolated source of issue with him? Part of a broader trend? In either case, is it/these a big enough deal for him to lose your support moving forward? For the rest of the political party supporting him?

If there has been a shift in your ability to support him, what is it that broke the camel's back?

econ|4 months ago

It is remarkably simple. There are countless meals on the menu but people get to see only the two on the front page. Say, monkey brains and bull testicles. Few can really appreciate either. There is a little talk about the slugs on page 1. An abysmal small number will turn a few pages and look over the burgers and pizzas... but you can't really order a burger in a restaurant like this? Can you? So even they pretend they really like to eat testicles.

You could have literally opened a random page and order whatever is on there. It is perfectly safe to order the burger as you will most likely be served monkey brains anyway.

No one will rage at you for voting for Afroman. There are no dire consequences.

tastyfreeze|4 months ago

Not OP but I reluctantly voted for Trump because of the direction he proclaimed he wanted the country to go. I could not tolerate the direction the democrats were wanting to go as it seemed an inevitable path to civil war.

But I knew Trump was shady and didn't like that he partied with Epstein in the 90s. A country takes a long time to change directions. I saw a chance for a smaller less restricting federal government. It was a gamble I was willing to take to at least get the ship turning around.

leptons|4 months ago

You knew who he is, and you voted for him anyway. You really didn't see this kind of rampant corruption coming from his 2nd term?

greenpizza13|4 months ago

Well, you voted for it. Were you not capable of critical thought when you entered the voting booth?

0xedd|4 months ago

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vkou|4 months ago

If you think this is wrong, please, I implore you to do something about it.

Your reps (or likely preferred choice of reps, if they didn't win their district) are enabling this, and don't give two shits about anything I say.

HDThoreaun|4 months ago

Trump is the most openly corrupt leader in american history. How can you vote for him while claiming to be against corruption?

naijaboiler|4 months ago

Because he’s giving them the one thing they really care about “white nationalism”

They will overlook everything else he does. Everything

lostdog|4 months ago

> Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

Welcome to the resistance!

Just curious. Since you voted for someone who is a terrible President last time, what are you planning to change about how you make voting decisions next time? Are there particular people or media you plan to listen to less, and others more? Particular aspects you will weight higher or lower?

froggertoaster|4 months ago

Just to be clear, I'm not part of any "resistance". I don't know what that is. Sounds awfully tribalistic - something I go out of my way to avoid.

froggertoaster|4 months ago

Thanks for all of the comments. I wasn't replying simply because I haven't seen them, but based on the comments I actually got: I feel like my words would be like yelling into a vacuum regardless of what I actually say.

vel0city|4 months ago

Honestly, why did you vote for this then?