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j4yav | 4 months ago

Because it doesn’t just fix your grammar, it makes you sound suspiciously like spam.

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orbital-decay|4 months ago

No? If you ask it to proofread your stuff, any competent model just fixes your grammar without adding anything on its own. At least that's my experience. Simply don't ask for anything that involves major rewrites, and of course verify the result.

j4yav|4 months ago

If you can’t communicate effectively in the language how are you evaluating that it doesn’t make you sound like a bot?

JohnFen|4 months ago

> any competent model just fixes your grammar without adding anything on its own

Grammatical deviations constitute a large part of an author's voice. Removing those deviations is altering that voice.

whatsakandr|4 months ago

I have a prompt to make it not rewrite, but just point out "hey you could rephrase this better." I still keep my tone, but the clanker can identify thoughts that are incomplete. Stuff that spell chekcer's can't do.

cubefox|4 months ago

Yeah. It's "pick your poison". If your English sounds broken, people will think poorly of your text. And if it sounds like LLM speak, they won't like it either. Not much you can do. (In a limited time frame.)

geerlingguy|4 months ago

Lately I have more appreciation for broken English and short, to the point sentences than the 20 paragraph AI bullet point lists with 'proper' formatting.

Maybe someone will build an AI model that's succinct and to the point someday. Then I might appreciate the use a little more.

j4yav|4 months ago

I would personally much rather drink the “human who doesn’t speak fluently” poison.

yodsanklai|4 months ago

LLM are pretty good to fix documents in exactly the way you want. At the very least, you can ask it to fix typos, grammar errors, without changing the tone, structure and content.

thw_9a83c|4 months ago

> Because it doesn’t just fix your grammar, it makes you sound suspiciously like spam.

This ship sailed a long time ago. We have been exposed to AI-generated text content for a very long time without even realizing it. If you read a little more specialized web news, assume that at least 60% of the content is AI-translated from the original language. Not to mention, it could have been AI-generated in the source language as well. If you read the web in several languages, this becomes shockingly obvious.

ianbicking|4 months ago

It does however work just fine if you ask it for grammar help or whatever, then apply those edits. And for pretty much the rest of the content too: if you have the AI generate feedback, ideas, edits, etc., and then apply them yourself to the text, the result avoids these pitfalls and the author is doing the work that the reader expects and deserves.

dewey|4 months ago

It's a tool and it depends on how you use it. If you tell it to fix your grammar with minimal intervention to the actual structure it will do just that.

portaouflop|4 months ago

I disagree. You can use it to point out grammar mistakes and then fix them yourself without changing the meaning or tone of the subject.

YurgenJurgensen|4 months ago

Paste passages from Wikipedia featured articles, today’s newspapers or published novels and it’ll still suggest style changes. And if you know enough to know to ignore ChatGPTs suggestions, you didn’t need it in the first place.