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pasteldream | 4 months ago

It’s not a completely arbitrary framing. It’s a consequence of other beliefs (ethical beliefs, beliefs about what you can or should tolerate, etc.), which are ultimately arbitrary, but it is not in and of itself arbitrary.

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mbac32768|4 months ago

I don't mean to imply that it's easy to change or that whatever someone might be dealing with is not unbearable agony, just that it's not a first principle truth that has more value than other framings.

In the pits of depression that first framing can seem like the absolute truth and it's only when it subsides do people see it as a distortion of their thoughts.