[liendolucas]

You do not buy a smart appliance. Period. A fridge, oven, toaster, washing machine, bed do not need to be smart.

Smart is the consumer that is able to spot all this BS ideas that are putting in front of us and avoids it as much as it can.

[drdaeman]

Disagree. Smart can be good, if you're actually in full control (whenever you contract the implementation to a company or own it).

The real problem is, there's not much on the market that respects the consumers in this regard. Ask for an SLA on a smart fridge functionality and you'll be met with a confusion and possibly a revelation there's nothing of a kind.

It's all ignored because most consumers don't ask questions about reliability, functionality, security and control - they don't think of those. And it's not a matter of technical or specialized knowledge, I'm sure even a caveman can understand "will this work tomorrow the exact same way it works today?" or "what happens to my fridge if you go out of business?" - it's a matter of awareness. People simply don't know yet how those new things can fail them.

Eventually people will learn about the issues, and start asking maker companies those questions. But it's all too new today.

[liendolucas]

How can smart be good? Can you give me a practical and real example of a benefit of a smart appliance? How can it be better than a regular appliance that does not get on your way?

Let me guess: now to operate a dishwasher I need to download and install a mobile app. And also regularly update the app and the firmware of the appliance, or maybe need a permanent internet connection to correctly operate. It' BS all the way down.

The only thing that companies are expecting from providing you a smart feature is to somehow monetize that on a regular basis and the easiest thing to do that is to either sell your data or locking you down to a fucking subscription.

[eep_social]

on a whim, I walked into a Lucid dealership and asked for a copy of their privacy policy as it relates to a purchased vehicle. the salesman told me “no” very firmly, so I left.

[seanmcdirmid]

I bought a vented Samsung washer/dryer combo recently. I have to say I like it a lot, probably because its a combo and I no longer have to transfer clothes from washer to dryer. The fact that is Samsung definitely makes me feel nervous however (how long will it last?). Unfortunately, they were the only one to make a vented combo so far (I should have waited for more options, but I'm still OK with it).

We have a frame TV also and it worked nice for the very narrow use case we had.

[MattPalmer1086]

I don't buy smart devices, unless they work fine without the smart stuff and it's a good buy. I have a "smart" TV because it's a great TV, but it only has HDMI cables plugged into it and no internet connection.