[znort_]

>You have the right to install whatever you want on your computer, regardless of whether that computer is on your desk or in your pocket. That's a hill I'll die on. I'm dismayed to see that this sentiment is not more widespread in this of all communities.

agreed, but i'm not going to die on any hill. i don't see much point in this discussion, these corps will do whatever they like. for me it is simple: iphone never was an option precisely because of this reason, and i've been quite content with android, but i don't think my current smartphone will run android for much longer, and the next one will definitely not.

[bfdm]

Very curious what you expect to move to. The market outside those options is extremely limited.

[znort_]

it is, but i'm willing to compromise. grapheneos can be an option for a while, ultimately a linux phone. worst case i can settle with 2 phones for a while, one cheap/old stock android exclusively for the bank and such, another one for everything else.

it's also a long run, the way things are shaping up i don't expect alternatives to become mainstream but nevertheless getting improved support over time.

if we indeed end up in a situation where there is no viable alternative then screw that, i might as well go completely off grid.