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Let's not get started with that... those same people also say "viertel nach drei" to mean 3:15 (one quarter after the "third hour" has passed), which is really confusing to the uninitiated, so "viertel vier" is preferable IMHO...

Yeah? Well, you know, thats just like uh your opinion, man.

And, its dismissive and ignorant. IMHO.