[Jarwain]

Sacrifice and service is meaningful because it was chosen. If we create something that'll willingly sacrifice itself, did it truly make an independent choice?

There's less suffering, sure. But if I were in their shoes I'd want to have a choice. To be manipulated into wanting something so very obviously and directly bad for us doesn't feel great

[ben_w]

I also feel repelled by such manipulation; unfortunately, the more we learn about oursleves, the harder it is to ignore that we ourselves are meat puppets and the puppeteer is evolution itself.