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TheBlight | 4 months ago

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jsheard|4 months ago

Grokipedia only seems to solve astroturfing by ramping gatekeeping up to 11, not allowing anyone outside of xAI to directly influence content or policy, or even observe the decision making processes that go into it. It stands to reason that you can't astroturf a brick wall.

TheBlight|4 months ago

So by your logic, there's only room for one gatekept source of general purpose information on the web? No one besides entrenched progressive interests can do anything to Wikipedia. It's like reddit. We're tired of your guys' spaces. So sorry if this offends.

LastTrain|4 months ago

Proof? More than a couple anecdotes please.

onetimeusename|4 months ago

The ADL was caught in a campaign making edits. I remember more details in the past but I simply can't find them now with any search engine.

https://forward.com/news/467423/adl-may-have-violated-wikipe...

But also the ADL is accusing others of covert campaigns: https://wassermanschultz.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?...

So I am sure this is a thing among corporations/NGOs. Note that I picked the ADL because I happened to know this and not because I am trying to make a point about the ADL's purpose. Also I am not really answering the part about progressives although the ADL is arguably a progressive NGO. I think there are astroturfing campaigns on Wikipedia whether progressive or not.

pureagave|4 months ago

How many more than a couple do you need? 20 anecdotes? 40 anecdotes? 100? How much bias is okay for you and the world?

TheBlight|4 months ago

Although I'm sure it's been a blast, we don't need to play by your rules any more.