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engcoach | 3 months ago

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phailhaus|3 months ago

NATO is a defensive alliance, not a trade organization.

engcoach|3 months ago

Correct, and this is the latest in a serious of decisions made by Türkiye which imperil NATO's collective defense.

Rare earths are vital for military equipment. This action is coming from a country that NATO has trusted with its best technology and they continue to flirt with both Russia and China, NATO's primary threats.

Do you see how my comment is about the impact on NATO's ability to wage war? What if Türkiye begins sharing military secrets with China? They are working with China on the mine referenced in the article. They are not trustworthy.

stackedinserter|3 months ago

Apparently, rare metals are becoming critical for defence industry.

notepad0x90|3 months ago

what's left of it after it's dismantlement you mean? it isn't much of an alliance now. and if it is going to be used to twist arms in trade disagreements, it is already dead.

engcoach|3 months ago

While it has its challenges, it is not dead.

jasonlotito|3 months ago

You want to kick them out of NATO because the USA and Turkey currently do not have a trade agreement on rare earth elements? Because that's what you are claiming.

bpodgursky|3 months ago

Türkiye is a highly effective arms manufacturer and is pretty aligned with NATO most of the time. They've been one of the more surprisingly strong supporters of Ukraine. They shot down a Russian jet a few years ago just to emphasize FAFO.

Yes they have their specific regional interests they will emphasize even when they offend NATO sensibilities, like giving Armenia the finger in their war with Azerbaijan, but that is not a major cost compared to what they give the US and EU strategically.

lukan|3 months ago

"when they offend NATO sensibilities, like giving Armenia the finger in their war"

Or when they support islamists in Syria against the kurds and annect illegally parts of it. Who cares about those things nowdays anyway.

But if we want NATO to not just be a military force, but something something freedom and human rights, maybe we should care more about it.

braincat31415|3 months ago

FAFO? Yet another moronic acronym of the day. Jeez...