[Flashtoo]

> Evolution by natural selection is not a deterministic process so 4 billion years is just one of many possible periods of time needed but not necessarily the longest or the shortest.

That's why I say that is an upper bound - we know that it _has_ happened under those circumstances, so the minimum time needed is not more than that. If we reran the simulation it could indeed very well be much faster.

I agree that 20 watts can be enough to support intelligence and if we can figure out how to get there, it will take us much less time than a billion years. I also think that on the compute side for developing the AGI we should count all the PhD brains churning away at it right now :)