[mdorazio]

737 MAX. That whole saga was because of Boeing trying really hard to not certify a new airframe so that they could quickly push out a competitor to A320 Neo. The result was hundreds of deaths.

[JumpCrisscross]

737 Max was a compendium of failures. Airframe wasn’t one of them. If anything, the 737 series’ airframes are perfected to a fault.

[miyuru]

Didn't the problems start when Boeing began using new engines on an old airframe for the Max?

https://www.eetimes.com/software-wont-fix-boeings-faulty-air...

[ViewTrick1002]

Tons of problems that only are accepted due being grandfathered in.

[05]

Southwest's 737 MAX contract had a penalty clause of $1 million per aircraft that would trigger if Boeing's delivery contract for the 737 MAX failed to meet certain standards, particularly Southwest's insistence that no flight simulator training be required for the MAX

Meaning, the roots of the “no new type rating” requirement come from Southwest, not Boeing.

[rwmj]

Presumably Boeing weren't under duress when they signed the contract.

[raverbashing]

Southwest and all the legacy carriers

So, how much they spent with the grounding again?

[getpost]

This is an interesting detail I had not heard. Can you link to a backstory on this? Why would such a contract ever be signed (especially for a technological product)?