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InvertedRhodium | 3 months ago

Constantly waking on eggshells that anything you say could be misinterpreted to be offensive and have career ending repercussions is exhausting.

Now, go on, parrot the same question again. Surely you’ll bait someone into accepting your framing of the issue sooner or later.

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scuff3d|3 months ago

What is it that you say on a regular basis that makes you feel like you need to walk on eggshells?

As I've said many times in the comments. I have 20+ years experience working for corporations. All through the me too wave, the increase focus on DE&I, and the general move to try and be less exclusionary. I've worked with woman, gay people, trans, and people of just about every ethnicity you could think of. Never once, in all those years, have I ever feared for my job or felt excluded.

Literally the only people I have ever heard complain are the ones I know for a fact tell racist and sexist jokes because they always felt comfortable enough around me to tell them.

If the fact that we are a bit more mindful about being racist and sexist in the work place bothers you, I think you may need to look inward at your own behavior. Not outward.

torstenvl|3 months ago

This is exactly the kind of dishonest manipulative baiting that makes people feel uncomfortable. Absolutely nothing InvertedRhodium said was in any way racist, and your allegations otherwise are both wholly devoid of evidence and against the community standards here.

If you can't make your point without leveling extreme and baseless allegations at fellow posters, that's a good sign that your point is without merit.

zahlman|3 months ago

> What is it that you say on a regular basis that makes you feel like you need to walk on eggshells?

For example, the things James Damore said, that resulted in his firing and which were blatantly misrepresented all over social media and journalism — to the point of people directly quoting things and then asserting that the quote means something other than its actual meaning.

> Never once, in all those years, have I ever feared for my job or felt excluded.

Not even when people assert that discrimination against your kind doesn't count as X-ism?

> Literally the only people I have ever heard complain are the ones I know for a fact tell racist and sexist jokes because they always felt comfortable enough around me to tell them. If the fact that we are a bit more mindful about being racist and sexist in the work place bothers you

You directly equivocate here. If they are telling racist and sexist jokes "around you", that is not doing so "in the work place". Moreover, if they "feel comfortable enough around you to tell them", that requires that you aren't objecting to it.

shadowgovt|3 months ago

Lot of people restating their discomfort but no examples.

It suggests they know these are not things to be said in mixed company and the real discomfort is the PSF events have become mixed company for them.

scuff3d|3 months ago

Still nothing. Lol

I'm happy to give people the benefit of the doubt. But this specific topic I don't think I've ever seen someone actually provide a real answer.