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reboot81 | 3 months ago

Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians.

So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.

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cjs_ac|3 months ago

Unlike most writing about politics, the article isn't arguing that 'those are the bad people over there'. The article describes a current aspect of reality and how it came about, and suggests a way of responding to that reality.

smsm42|3 months ago

The right way to respond to this reality would be to stop UK government from being insane by electing a more sane government. Stopping using iphones is going to help only for a short term - once encryption is de-legalized, they will come for everybody who they deem worth coming for, sooner or later. If it'll require introducing licenses to run encryption software and mandating key escrow, they'd do that. Yes, you still would be able to sneak in encrypting software on USB drive hidden in your... let's say, pocket. But the mere fact of using it would make you a criminal then. That's the natural progression of where it is going, unfortunately.

cbsmith|3 months ago

> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.

I don't think there's any blaming of Apple going on here. This is about dealing with the practical realities of the circumstances for people in the UK.

encom|3 months ago

England has been speedrunning the dystopian surveillance police state for a while now, through numerous governments. Voting is pointless.

Same (but different) in Denmark where politicians vote to give themselves more money[1], snoop on everything[2], violate our constitution unpunished[3], delete evidence of corruption[4], open the borders[5], etc. etc. etc. I used to care - a lot - I really did. But I'm done.

[1]https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/ny-aftale-politikeres-loen... [2]https://www.justitsministeriet.dk/pressemeddelelse/i-dag-tra... [3]https://www.information.dk/indland/2020/12/jurister-ja-grund... [4]https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/politisk-flertal-presser-m... [5]https://integrationsbarometer.dk/tal-og-analyser/INTEGRATION...

BirAdam|3 months ago

In general, if voting had the power to change much, it would be illegal. Rulers allow voting to change a few things, but never the things that benefit themselves.

graemep|3 months ago

Might come across as pedantic, but its important, "the UK" not "England". Confusing the two can upset people, especially those from the rest of the UK.

Personally I do not think its just the UK and Denmark, its pretty much everywhere.

infinitezest|3 months ago

It must be nice to live somewhere that has politicians that represent the will of the people enough to have a take like this. Where I live, your vote only counts if you have enough money.

vkou|3 months ago

You're asking for a monkey's paw.

The current ruling party in the US has given its voters exactly what they think they wanted, and it's a fucking disaster.

criddell|3 months ago

The writer isn't blaming Apple.

sedatk|3 months ago

The title certainly disagrees.

raxxorraxor|3 months ago

Wrong or painfully naive. Politics has to deal with realities. If the net wasn't engineered to be resistant to censorship, we probably wouldn't even be talking accross borders right now.

thenthenthen|3 months ago

Apple obeys the law. They operate in countries where you can not vote.

sfgvvxsfccdd|3 months ago

> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.

Author doesn’t. Not sure who you are disagreeing with.

ubermonkey|3 months ago

Did you read the article? She doesn't blame Apple.

Sixth paragraph: "But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me."

jjtheblunt|3 months ago

it does if you're clickbaiting via ragebait, like she is?

veleek|3 months ago

I think it’s a stretch to say the author is blaming Apple in the title and she explicitly calls out in the very first section:

> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.