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ryadh | 3 months ago

Ryadh from ClickHouse here, happy to answers questions if folks have any.

So, why this move ?

Basically, we noticed that the existing "agentic" open-source ecosystem is primarily focused on developer tools and SDKs, as developers are the early adopters who build the foundation for emerging technologies. Current projects provide frameworks, orchestration, and integrations The idea behind the Agentic Data Stack is a higher-level integration to provide a composable software stack for agentic analytics that users can setup quicky, with room for customization.

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redwood|3 months ago

Cool so your bet is that chat is essentially the new interface for BI... or ad hoc analytical inquiry... which opens up more dynamic BI... instead of asking an analyst in a slack conversation who then goes and runs a bunch of data pulls and munging, it's all handled agentically and a response is brought back to the user.. one thing is for sure: Tableau needs to be disrupted so happy to watch this one play out!

ryadh|3 months ago

It actually comes from our own experience at ClickHouse. We deployed this stack internally 8 months ago, and since very few people here have touched our legacy BI systems :) I have never seen an adoption curve like this one tbh. It's obviously not perfect and can hallucinate sometimes, which can be tricky, but with the right approach and awareness in place, the value it delivers is massive. What really happens is that more users get access to data instantly, and as a result, we make better, data-driven, decisions overall.

My favourite use-case: our sales and support folks systematically ask DWAINE (our dwh agent) to produce a report before important meetings with customers, something along the lines of: "I'm meeting with <customer_name> for a QBR, what do I need to know?". This will pull usage data, support interactions, billing, and many other dimensions, and you can guess that the quality of the conversation is greatly improved.

My colleague Dmitry wrote about it when we first deployed it: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bi-dead-change-my-mind-dmitry...

yawnxyz|3 months ago

This is really cool; does this mean Danny gets a salary to work on his open source project; would you consider this a "sponsorship" or would he have other jobs within ClickHouse / have a manager etc?

ryadh|3 months ago

The LibreChat folks are now my colleagues, and it's exciting

sdesol|3 months ago

Full Disclosure. I am the author of https://github.com/gitsense/chat

> The idea behind the Agentic Data Stack is a higher-level integration to provide a composable software stack for agentic analytics that users can setup quicky, with room for customization.

I agree with this. For those who have been programming with LLM, the difference between something working and not working can be a simple "sentence" conveying the required context. I strongly believe data enrichment will be one of the main ways we can make agents more effective and efficient. Data enrichment is the foundation for my personal assistant feature https://github.com/gitsense/chat/blob/main/packages/chat/wid...

Basically instead of having agents blindly grep for things, you would provide them with analyzers that they can use to search with. By making it dead simple for domain experts to extract 'business logic' from their codebase/data, we can solve a lot of problems, much more efficiently. Since data is the key, I can see why ClickHouse will make this move since they probably want to become the storage for all business logic.

Note: I will be dropping a massive update to how my tool generates and analyzes metadata this week, so don't read too much into the demo or if you decide to play with it. I haven't really been promoting it because the flow hasn't been right, but it should be this week.

tedivm|3 months ago

My biggest question and concern is whether or not LibreChat will end up introducing the SSO tax or other "enterprise tier" features. Is this something you can speak on?

ryadh|3 months ago

Interestingly, LibreChat has a broad range of applications already and we'll continue to support them. The investment area we want to tackle in priority is around the analytics use-case specifically.In that space, I don't see an SSO-tax scheme unfolding tbh, it's really about better visualizations, semantic layers and anything that can improve the quality of the insights produced on top of analytics data