[98codes]

I got one sentence in and thought to myself, "This is about discovery, isn't it?"

And lo, complaints about plaintiffs started before I even had to scroll. If this company hadn't willy-nilly done everything they could to vacuum up the world's data, wherever it may be, however it may have been protected, then maybe they wouldn't be in this predicament.

[rpdillon]

How do you feel about Google vacuuming up the world's data when they created a search engine? I feel like everybody just ignores this because Google was ostensibly sending traffic to the resulting site. The actual infringement of scraping should be identical between OpenAI and Google. Why is nobody complaining about Google scraping their sites? Is it only because they're getting paid off to not complain?

Everybody acts like this is a moral argument when really it's about whether or not they're getting a piece of the pie.

[watwut]

At the time Google created a search engine, they were not showing the data themselves, they were pointing to where those are. When they started to actually print articles themselves, they got sued. Showing where the thing is and showing content of the thing are two different actions.

So, when google did the same thing, there were complains.

> Why is nobody complaining about Google scraping their sites?

And second, search engines were actually pretty gentle with their sites scrapping. They needed the sites to work, so they respected robots.txt and made sure they wont accidentally DDoS sites by too many requests. AI companies just DDoS sites, do not respect robots.txt and if you block them, they will use another from their infinite amount of IPs.

Otherwise said, even back then, Google was kind trying to be ok non evil citizen. They became sociopathic only much later and even now kind of try to hide it. OpenAI and the rest of AI companies are openly sociopathic and proud of damage they cause.