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coolestguy | 3 months ago

Sorry that you can't control other peoples lives & wants

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DonaldPShimoda|3 months ago

This is like arguing that we shouldn't try to regulate drugs because some people might "want" the heroin that ruins their lives.

The existing "personalities" of LLMs are dangerous, full stop. They are trained to generate text with an air of authority and to tend to agree with anything you tell them. It is irresponsible to allow this to continue while not at least deliberately improving education around their use. This is why we're seeing people "falling in love" with LLMs, or seeking mental health assistance from LLMs that they are unqualified to render, or plotting attacks on other people that LLMs are not sufficiently prepared to detect and thwart, and so on. I think it's a terrible position to take to argue that we should allow this behavior (and training) to continue unrestrained because some people might "want" it.

simonw|3 months ago

What's your proposed solution here? Are you calling for legislation that controls the personality of LLMs made available to the public?

andy99|3 months ago

Pretty sure most of the current problems we see re drug use are a direct result of the nanny state trying to tell people how to live their lives. Forcing your views on people doesn’t work and has lots of negative consequences.

The_Rob|3 months ago

Comparing LLM responses to heroine is insane.

boredhedgehog|3 months ago

Disincentivizing something undesirable will not necessarily lead to better results, because it wrongly assumes that you can foresee all consequences of an action or inaction.

Someone who now falls in love with an LLM might instead fall for some seductress who hurts him more. Someone who now receives bad mental health assistance might receive none whatsoever.

samdoesnothing|3 months ago

Who are you to determine what other people want? Who made you god?

pmarreck|3 months ago

here’s something I noticed: If you yell at them (all caps, cursing them out, etc.), they perform worse, similar to a human. So if you believe that some degree of “personable answering” might contribute to better correctness, since some degree of disagreeable interaction seems to produce less correctness, then you might have to accept some personality.

EGreg|3 months ago

ChatGPT 5.2: allow others to control everything about your conversations. Crowd favorite!