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geoffschmidt | 3 months ago

But see also the next section ("empowering experienced users"):

> We are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified

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Aachen|3 months ago

Oh! I thought I had found the crucial piece finally after ~500 words, but there's indeed better news in the section after that! Thanks, I can go sleep with a more optimistic feeling now :)

Also this will kill any impetus that was growing on the Linux phone development side, for better or worse. We get to live in this ecosystem a while longer, let's see if people keep damocles' sword in mind and we might see more efforts towards cross-platform builds for example

ryandrake|3 months ago

Let's take the "W". This is pretty good news!

DavideNL|3 months ago

> We are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified

Sure, they'll keep building it forever — this is just a delay tactic.

advisedwang|3 months ago

That doesn't say that you can just build an APK and distribute it. I suspect this path _still_ requires you to create a developer console account and distribute binaries signed by it... just that that developer account doesn't have to have completed identity verification.

consp|3 months ago

So you will now need a useless and needless account to build and run your own apps? It's like Microsoft forcing online login on pcs.

rrix2|3 months ago

it's probably just gonna be under the Developer Options "secret" menu

magguzu|3 months ago

Which is totally fine IMO, it was weird to me that they weren't going with this approach when they first announced it.

Macs blocked launching apps from unverified devs, but you can override in settings. I thought they could just do something along those lines.

gblargg|3 months ago

Let me guess, a warning box that requires me to give permission to the app to install from third-party sources? Is that not clear enough confirmation that I know what I'm doing? /s

metadat|3 months ago

So.. all this drama over an alert(yes/no) box?

Wow, this really pulls back the veil. This Vendor (google) is only looking out for numero uno.

cesarb|3 months ago

> So.. all this drama over an alert(yes/no) box?

A simple yes/no alert box is not "[...] specifically to resist coercion, ensuring that users aren't tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from a scammer". In fact, AFAIK we already have exactly that alert box.

No, what they want is something so complicated that no muggle could possibly enable it, either by accident or by being guided on the phone.

Aurornis|3 months ago

> So.. all this drama over an alert(yes/no) box?

The angry social media narratives have been running wild from people who insert their own assumptions into what’s happening.

It’s been fairly clear from the start that this wasn’t the end of sideloading, period. However that doesn’t get as many clicks and shares as writing a headline claiming that Google is taking away your rights.