[yobert]

I agree about the bad side of slack culture, except when compared to how things were before slack: Horrible email threads, in-person meetings, phone calls, and people walking over to your desk to ask you stupid things they could have looked up themselves.

Slack revolutionized this for me because I can turn it off anytime I want. When I want focus, I close it and it cannot reach me for some time. Then I pull it up and read all the threads while taking a poop.

Having it in zed is the same: You can just log out of collab anytime you want! You would only use it if you _want_ to use it. When you do want to use it, it's incredible. Someone can just join your channel and work on a tricky problem with you and you don't even need to screen share. It's like the best of discord and slack available at the touch of a button. It's much lighter weight than slack. Slack huddles are super annoying to me. I want it to behave more like discord, and that's what zed does!

[xrd]

That's a good point. Email is much worse than slack.

But I still think it is impossible to manage all the things happening in slack. And the expectation is that it was said in slack, so you should know about it! Whereas, I definitely go through and review PRs and if there is a culture and management agreement around good PRs, then I can easily understand how things work, how things have changed, etc. I never get that from slack. And, I never got it from email either, fairly.

[yobert]

The topic of "expectation" is really interesting and worth discussing more. I refuse to accept the expectation of slack meaning I am literally always available to message, and also that I must read and keep track of everything in there. If somebody asks me about something and I suspect it might be in slack, I might do search for it to catch up on that topic if I am inclined. But obviously so many people feel the pressure you're describing (to know about everything said in slack)--- which sounds terrible!