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jwong_ | 3 months ago

Wish there was a bit more technical details in how the prompt iterations looked like.

> We didn’t just replace a model. We replaced a process.

That line sticks out so much now, and I can't unsee it.

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prasoonds|3 months ago

Right? This one is also very clear ChatGPTese

> That’s not a marginal improvement; it’s a different way of building classifiers.

They've replaced an em-dash with a semi-colon.

klabb3|3 months ago

They are really getting to the heart of the problem!

notanastronaut|3 months ago

One of the benefits of being immersed in model usage is being able to spot it in the wild from a mile away. People really hate when you catch them doing it and call them out for it.

nerdponx|3 months ago

It didn't stick out to me because "corporate success story" articles already tend to sound like that, which is at least in part where I imagine the popular LLMs get it from. (The other part being pop nonfiction books.)

magicalist|3 months ago

> That line sticks out so much now, and I can't unsee it.

I thought maybe they did it on purpose at first, like a cheeky but too subtle joke about LLM usage, but when it happened twice near the end of the post I just acknowledged, yeah, they did the thing. At least it was at the end or I might have stopped reading way earlier.

keeda|3 months ago

I dunno, ending with a short, punchy insight is a common way to make an impactful conclusion. It's the equivalent of a "hook" for concluding an article instead of opening. I do it often and see others (e.g. OpEds) use that tactic all the time.

I think we're getting into reverse slop discrimination territory now. LLMs have been trained on so much of what we consider "good writing", that actual good writing is now attributed by default to LLMs.

ieie3366|3 months ago

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Aniket-N|3 months ago

The two groups can be different but exist in the same community.

Aurornis|3 months ago

I’ve been on HN long enough to know that the upvotes are primarily driven by reactions to the headline. The actual content only gets viewed after upvoting, or often not at all.

magicalist|3 months ago

> Also HN readers: upvote the most obvious chatgpt slop to the frontpage

Eh, this one was interesting as documentation of real work that people were doing over years. You don't get that many blog posts about this sort of effort without, usually, a bunch of self hype (because the company blogging also sells data analysis AI or whatever) that clouds any interesting part of the story. The slop in it is annoying but it's also noise thats relatively easy to filter out in this case

dwaltrip|3 months ago

Those phrases definitely stick out quite badly. But this post wasn’t pure slop.

It had high quality info about a large ML effort inside an old school auto company, which is very interesting. I was just a bit disappointed no one thought to edit those out.

nerdponx|3 months ago

If you have genuinely interesting and valuable results to report, but you ask AI to do the final writeup for you and it comes across in that generic AI slop style, is it slop? Kind of a gray area for me. It certainly feels lazy and disrespectful to me as a reader, but on the other hand if they don't spend an afternoon proofreading and revising, maybe they can spend that afternoon instead building stuff. I don't know, our whole concept of the purpose of the written word is falling apart.

serjester|3 months ago

Seems like a very natural fit for fine tuning - would have loved to see more on the LLM side.