[genshii]

I used Proxmox for years to run a fairly comprehensive homelab, and a few months ago replaced the entire thing with Incus (on a debian host, haven't tried IncusOS yet). Incus is amazing and it makes so many things so much easier compared to Proxmox.

One thing in particular is permissions in unprivileged containers. In Proxmox, you have to do a bunch of somewhat confusing ID mapping. In Incus, it's as simple as setting "shift=true".

Also the profile system in Incus is really powerful and allowed me to deduplicate a ton of config.

[johntash]

Can Incus do regular vms too, or only LXCs? I think I looked at it before but wrote it off because I still have some workloads that have to be in VMs.

[stormking]

It can do VMs, "system containers" like LXC and Docker/OCI-compatible application containers.

There was a project to implement a dockcer-compose compatible "incus-compose" but unfortunately, it looks dead, right now.

You can even set up a kubernetes cluster entirely composed of containers: https://github.com/lxc/cluster-api-provider-incus

[octagons]

Yes, it can do both. The image server will build for both options if possible, so you have to specify “—vm” on the command line creating the domain.

[aborsy]

Incus is more comparable to LXD than proxmox. IncusOS is different though.

LXD containers also are unprivileged by default.

[udev4096]

Incus was an LXD fork in the very beginning but it's evolved a lot since then. Incus is far superior than LXD in number of ways

[kwk1]

Incus is specifically an LXD fork.

[guipsp]

You might be mixing up LXC and LXD

[victorbjorklund]

Interesting. Is there anything else that is better than proxmox? Like performance etc?

[stormking]

Besides VMs and LXC/Proxmox-style containers, it can also run docker containers out of the box.

[exographicskip]

I like harvester by suse

[udev4096]

Profiles are really great. It's like cloud-init on steroids