Can we just take a moment to appreciate the sloppy/lazy redacting going on here?
> ______ and husband, NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, arrive on the red carpet at the 141st running of the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky.
Gee, I wonder who that could be without a difficult investigation.
Note that this particular document was made public before the 2016 election, much less the 2020 election.
As usual with Trump, nobody who cared had any power, and nobody who had any power cared. I expect that's how it'll play out this time... just another missed swing at the mad king.
Eh I disagree. This is breaking through to more and more MAGA.
It doesn’t feel like it because with each fracturing off of the moderate end of MAGA (insofar as that exists), the core gets more committed, more extreme, and therefore more vocal.
This is on its way to being a very small but extreme group of citizens and a fairly large and extreme group of politicians (since backing up isn’t as easy as removing a yard sign and avoiding the topic in social engagements).
That's from 2016 and it's widely accepted as being a hoax. She may or may not even exist as she's never been seen publicly or by reporters trying to verify the claim.
The court documents referencing Johnson were filed in California and New York but were dismissed or withdrawn due to lack of credibility and proper legal standing. The plaintiff provided false contact information, including the address of a foreclosed home, and repeatedly failed to appear for scheduled press conferences despite promises to do so.
The claims were tied to Norm Lubow, a former producer for "The Jerry Springer Show," who used the pseudonym Al Taylor to promote the allegations.
Lubow admitted to Snopes in 2024 that he was behind the Al Taylor persona and had helped draft the initial lawsuit and publicize the claims, though he maintained the story was true.
It’s pretty demoralizing to see how many people accept at face value a totally anonymous lawsuit backed by Norm Lubow. The plaintiff never made any court appearances and the suit was withdrawn or dismissed each time, in the first case because nobody even lived at the address “she” gave.
Ultimately Lubow recruited a patent lawyer to run the case who also apparently never met her. Then a real lawyer set up a press conference for her. This was the first time any journalist got to meet her in person - and it was the Daily Mail. They reported it was all made up and the case and “Katie Johnson” disappeared forever.
But still it keeps coming up again and again, because people really want to believe their political enemies are evil. I guess it’s no different than the conspiracy theories Clinton was killing people. I just hope we as a country get better.
legitster|3 months ago
> ______ and husband, NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, arrive on the red carpet at the 141st running of the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky.
Gee, I wonder who that could be without a difficult investigation.
g-b-r|3 months ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/unsubstantiated-trump-child-rape-... seems a surprisingly good article about it, despite it being Yahoo.
I imagine it's still possible that it really happened, but it seems more likely that it was false
CamperBob2|3 months ago
As usual with Trump, nobody who cared had any power, and nobody who had any power cared. I expect that's how it'll play out this time... just another missed swing at the mad king.
estearum|3 months ago
It doesn’t feel like it because with each fracturing off of the moderate end of MAGA (insofar as that exists), the core gets more committed, more extreme, and therefore more vocal.
This is on its way to being a very small but extreme group of citizens and a fairly large and extreme group of politicians (since backing up isn’t as easy as removing a yard sign and avoiding the topic in social engagements).
theultdev|3 months ago
The court documents referencing Johnson were filed in California and New York but were dismissed or withdrawn due to lack of credibility and proper legal standing. The plaintiff provided false contact information, including the address of a foreclosed home, and repeatedly failed to appear for scheduled press conferences despite promises to do so.
The claims were tied to Norm Lubow, a former producer for "The Jerry Springer Show," who used the pseudonym Al Taylor to promote the allegations.
Lubow admitted to Snopes in 2024 that he was behind the Al Taylor persona and had helped draft the initial lawsuit and publicize the claims, though he maintained the story was true.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-wo...
Amezarak|3 months ago
Ultimately Lubow recruited a patent lawyer to run the case who also apparently never met her. Then a real lawyer set up a press conference for her. This was the first time any journalist got to meet her in person - and it was the Daily Mail. They reported it was all made up and the case and “Katie Johnson” disappeared forever.
But still it keeps coming up again and again, because people really want to believe their political enemies are evil. I guess it’s no different than the conspiracy theories Clinton was killing people. I just hope we as a country get better.