[hellcow]

Vision Pro is a perfect example of a greed-driven failure. Apple pissed off both devs and megacorps by keeping the ecosystem closed, fighting tooth and nail in courts such that every app needed to pay them 30% and couldn't be installed without their blessing, and unsurprisingly very few massive companies (or hackers) wanted to support Apple's fledgling closed garden. Without software, it's just a gadget.

[bitpush]

> Apple pissed off both devs and megacorps by keeping the ecosystem closed

This was so incredible to see play out in real time.

You know where else this is happening now? Car makers and CarPlay.

CarPlay might be objectively better but car makers are giving them the boot, for very good reason.

Apple overplayed their hand (or as you say, was incredibly greedy) and now they get to live with the consequences.

[pbh101]

Tesla announced they are adding it this week. Ford’s CEO expressed glee at GM removing it. There isn’t a CarPlay App Store nor downloads to get 30% from (or if there were, they’d appreciably be enabled by Apple’s platform as we aren’t in the habit of subscribing to or buying apps for our car today), and while we don’t know the licensing terms from the GM removal it sounded like privacy violations and extra subscription revenue are their motivations for dropping CarPlay. That doesn’t sound consumer friendly on the carmakers part at all. I think this field doesn’t line up with the overall thesis, squint as we might.

[buzzerbetrayed]

> for very good reason.

The reasons are subscription revenue and user data. Not sure which of those you consider very good.

[rootusrootus]

Huh? Apple does not charge for CarPlay. Some automakers are trying to give them the boot, but that has nothing to do with Apple's greed and everything to do with the automakers' greed. They want their own ecosystem of apps.