[dilippkumar]

Long time OpenBSD fan. Used it as my daily driver for years before standardizing all computers at home to macOS. I still think about going back to openBSD one day, but it's no longer very practical as a daily driver.

I want to use OpenBSD for the next project I'm building. However, I can't wrap my head around the old way of doing deployments (before containers). People who've built production grade systems with OpenBSD:

1. How do you deploy software? 2. How do you manage fleets of servers? 3. How do you spin up/turn down servers from cloud providers? (I only know of Vultr who provided an OpenBSD option out of the box).

[hylaride]

> Long time OpenBSD fan. Used it as my daily driver for years before standardizing all computers at home to macOS. I still think about going back to openBSD one day, but it's no longer very practical as a daily driver.

It's only practical for hobbyists. I used OpenBSD as a daily driver between 2001-2005. I fought, I suffered, I conquered, and I got tired of not being able to watch video on the web reliably and MacOS in those days was so clean and refreshing. I learned so much, though.

> I want to use OpenBSD for the next project I'm building.

I admire your open-mindedness. But ask yourself:

1. Do you want to have to upgrade fleets of servers every year with no exceptions for extended security support instead of 5 (or more if you're willing to pay) for LTS versions of Linux?

2. Who else will need to support it?

3. You will likely have worse performance if that matters.

> 1. How do you deploy software?

Honestly, not many people create their own services that run on OpenBSD. Those that do use old-school packaging and scripting. Tooling like ansible works.

> 2. How do you manage fleets of servers?

Ansible would be my go-to for classic fleets of servers.

> How do you spin up/turn down servers from cloud providers?

There are ports of cloud-init for OpenBSD. Creating images for third party OSes can be different levels of painful, depending on the cloud provider.

[SoftTalker]

OpenBSD has virtualization out of the box now. Most of the benefit of containers you can get with chroot. I don't know if any of the developers are working on a true container/jail capability.

I'd like to see a more modern performant filesystem with OpenBSD but ffs has never really let me down. Capability for logical volumes and/or live resizing of partitions would be welcome as well.

[indigodaddy]

RE: 1/2, doesn't Ansible work for BSDs?