This phrasing surprised me, too. Bandera certainly has a mixed legacy. The truth of the matter is that Stalin's brutality and evil was so bad that he forced western Ukrainian nationalists to collaborate with Nazi Germany (which of course was also brutal and evil, but also offered a semblance of hope for Ukrainians, like other ethnic minorities and partisans who were placed against gargantuan rocks and hard places during the height of the horrors of the 20th century, and perhaps world history).
consumer451|3 months ago
I know that Ukraine has a complicated history with our country. I also believe that Ukraine is currently fighting for freedom and democracy in Europe.
Oddly enough, nothing better states my feelings than this Russian language music video, by a group who is now banned in Russia. IC3PEAK nailed it, and risked their lives in doing so. Please take less than three minutes to watch it with subs on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqohApD6Ng8 [1]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...
[1] Previous discussion, possibly the most upvoted music video on this website:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40027113
drysine|3 months ago
But somehow their heroes wear Nazi's symbols[0].
[0] https://www.lemonde.fr/videos/video/2025/06/18/guerre-en-ukr...
drysine|3 months ago
Yeah, right. The truth.
Is it Stalin who forced Ukrainian nationalists to genocide Poles, Jews and also Armenians, Russians, Czechs and Georgians? [0] Looks like the genocidal ideology of Ukrainian nationalists aligned very well with genocidal ideology of German Nazis.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia...
maximinus_thrax|3 months ago