[CactusBlue]

> I think they’re recovering. They’ve learned a few lessons, including not to be too in hock to a few powerful and wealthy individuals.

I do not believe the EA movement to be recoverable; it is built on flawed foundations and its issues are inherent. The only way I see out of it is total dissolution; it cannot be reformed.

[flexagoon]

Which of the foundations is flawed, the "we have the ability to help others and should use it" or the "some ways of helping others are more effective than others"?