[DoomDestroyer]

A lot of these concepts don't mean anything to most developers I've found. A lot of the time I struggle to get the guy I work with to compile and run his code. Even something relatively simple as determinism and pure functions just isn't happening.

This is shockingly common and most developers will never ever hear of Clojure, Haskell or Elixir.

I really feel there is like two completely different developer worlds. One where these things are discussed and the one I am in where I am hoping that I don't have to make a teams call to tell a guy "please can you make sure you actually run the code before making a PR" because my superiors won't can him.

[drob518]

Well, yes, if your shop hires poorly, immutability won’t save you. In fact, nothing will save you.