[coin]

> Nobody's human rights are being actively violated because they're not allow to immigrate here.

Many people’s rights are being violated recently while enforcing immigration law

[scoofy]

My point is about the laws themselves. If they were unjust laws, there is an argument for civil disobedience. They aren’t though, so civil disobedience here is just anti-democratic.

[4MOAisgoodenuf]

what is the objective criteria for just or unjust laws?

[simianparrot]

They’re criminals. Criminals give up some of their rights. That’s how the law is enforceable.

[ivraatiems]

This is exactly the kind of logic that makes massive abuses of power possible. "Criminals" in this case is an arbitrarily defined category used capriciously by an uncaring and authoritarian government.

You could be a "criminal" tomorrow, if you look at the administration wrong.