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datatrashfire | 3 months ago

Would you accept 0 pollution if it meant you had no electricity, electronic devices, or access to transportation? All of those things create pollution.

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defrost|3 months ago

A good many people I know and have known for 60+ years would, do, and yearn for civilisation as you know it to back the f off and get its foot from their neck.

Yes, they are fully awar of what that means and they have lived without electricity, devices, and transport.

Embrace of bleeding edge tech isn't universal, hell even the embrace of the past 100 years of tech isn't for every human.

Gud|3 months ago

They have not lived without society not using u those things though, unless they live in Siberia or something.

ben_w|3 months ago

That's the great thing about "invention", there are other ways to 0 pollution besides historic ones.

Worse than that, actually: to get to 0 pollution by only deleting things, you'd also need to remove one of the main sources of pollution in third world countries: cooking with fire.

Invention has already given us renewable electricity, and using that to cook is much better than inhaling wood smoke.

datatrashfire|3 months ago

Electrifying the economy is not a path to 0 pollution.

estimator7292|3 months ago

Hey, you probably don't want to sympathize with a guy that everyone around you thinks is irredeemably evil.

And if you do still want to sympathize with such, maybe examine that motivation for like three seconds.

JuniperMesos|3 months ago

> Hey, you probably don't want to sympathize with a guy that everyone around you thinks is irredeemably evil.

> And if you do still want to sympathize with such, maybe examine that motivation for like three seconds.

This sounds like a theat - "hate the person we all hate too, or maybe you yourself are a threat to the group's values, and since we can't actually get to the guy we hate, we'll punish you in his stead for being a sympathizer"

datatrashfire|3 months ago

No sympathy for Larry here! Just the point that development is going to coincide with some level of increased pollution. Even an electrified economy with 0 carbon emissions is going to be ecologically devastating after all the mountain top removal mining has gathered the materials to make it possible.