[mjlee]

I've been pressing minus twice to type a dash on Mac OS for so long I've forgotten when I started. People are pointing it out to me more and more every day. I think my writing is distinct enough from an LLM for most people, but there's certainly a growing contingent that sees a telltale and assumes everything must be AI generated.

Most (all?) keyboards I've used only have a combined hyphen‐minus key (-) which is distinct from a dash (—) and isn't quite a hyphen (‐), so I get why most people don't care. All font dependent as well to add to the fun, and my examples here render differently in the textbox and the comment!

[plufz]

Yeah it actually saddens me a little, if using good and correct typography will be avoided because of LLM.

[pardon_me]

It's already happened unfortunately. LLMs learned to write correctly from people who write correctly. Those people are now being blamed for sounding like AI, when AI actually sounds like them (and probably learned from their work without permission). To avoid they, they write differently.

[Xss3]

Em dashes are still appropriate for articles, journals, scientific papers, and other academic or professional writing.

In social media comments they came across as pompous even before LLMs and werent particularly appropriate for casual comments.

Though to be fair some people enjoy coming across as pompous and embrace the 'better than the peasants and their lowly minus sign use' attitude. Makes them feel special or as if their writing is markedly better than those without fancy punctuation. (It isnt).

Also yes, im describing two writers i know that are adamant about the em dash being 'a sign of an intellectual wtiter'...they are insufferable pricks.

[mvkel]

If people only fixate on your emdashes, they're just lazy. The bigger AI smell to me is the "it's not X — it's Y," of which the emdash is a part.

[mr_toad]

They’re using a crude linear model to identify AI output, which is not that much different from that which the AI safety industry is peddling, or the people that sell solutions to identify AI output.

You can’t reliably predict the output of a non-linear model with a simple linear model, no matter how hard you wish it.

[khazhoux]

That’s not an LLM indicator —it’s totally acceptable grammar.

[agravier]

I've been using it as well for a long while (though using option shift -), but I don't care what people think. I won't change my style to appease Temu Sherlocks, or anyone really. How I write doesn't change the value of the message. I invite you to join me in not giving a crap.

[mjlee]

It wasn't clear from my comment, but I absolutely don't care and I'm going to keep typing how I type.

[Macha]

I’d actually just figured out the compose binding to type it on Linux just before chatgpt got popular

[boringg]

Ive had to change how i write so that people don’t think its chat bot. Probably more a me thing but it has sadly ruined my heavy use of m dash and personal style. Small minority i know.

[adi_kurian]

I wouldn't bother. Who gives a flying fuck. The only people I know talking about it aren't particularly good at writing anyway.

[acheron]

“Why should I change? He’s the one who sucks.”