[qlm]

Sounds like reactionary nonsense to me. It's just some names. It's not indicative of the debasement of society.

[inglor_cz]

In isolation, yes. But other things have happened as well. People dress like slobs; interestingly, in my country, where GDP per capita skyrocketed since 1989, standards of clothing seem to have gone down, especially for formal occasions. We have a major problem with physical fitness, Westerners of the 1970s were much thinner and moved more. People read fewer books and spend their days consuming brainrot on Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube shorts.

(Notice that the very word brainrot is a neologism?)

I don't think we should pooh-pooh such developments as irrelevant, and I am very unhappy that they have been subsumed to the universal polarization of the culture wars that consume everything while producing nothing of value.

The Moloch indeed.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

> standards of clothing

Examined more closely, this appears to mean nothing more than "people spend less time wearing the clothes that a previously dominant culture considered to be high status markers".

[BurningFrog]

One theory is that you, like myself, has reached the age where many modern ways seem dumb and younger people aren't even aware of what has been lost.

Importantly: even if this is the case, it doesn't mean we're wrong!

[qlm]

I suggest you reflect on the value you are placing on aesthetics, and where this way of thinking ultimately leads.

[tired-turtle]

“Standards of clothing” is not a set with a total order, and society has never had one way to dress. You’re unfairly projecting your values (of a certain style of dress) onto society as if it’s shared by everyone.