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MyFirstSass | 3 months ago

The number one priority must surely be fixing the keyboard, besides the horrible UX?

Millions are having problems for years so it's not just me, honestly thought i was "getting old" but no incredible amount of threads and now this on YT with 1 mil views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksVvXONrIo

Wild typing on a 3210 was less stressful for me.

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skwee357|3 months ago

I through I’m just getting stupider and stupider with each day. I even started to reset my iOS keyboard autocorrect dictionary or whatever-magic-learning they do to fix this, but eventually will still mistype words.

Thank you for this video, it really made me feel that I’m not alone in this struggle of typing.

paxys|3 months ago

Installing the Google keyboard has been step #1 on every new iOS device of mine for the last decade. Sometimes I'll accidentally switch back to the default one while typing and immediately notice how broken the experience is. And yeah, I have definitely run into the exact issue shown in this video.

As a side note, I can't believe not a single device manufacturer has been able to make a blackberry-style keyboard work with a modern phone. Texting is by far the #1 activity on smartphones and yet when it comes to typing we have somehow gone backwards since the mid 2000s.

xethos|3 months ago

Per your last point, there's at least one. My updated Q20 (BlackBerry Classic) just shipped, with the same keyboard, trackpad, and body - but new cameras, battery, and mainboard, meaning a relatively up-to-date Android

The Q27 (a ground-up new design) with a similar keyboard is in the works as well, with the Q20 being used to raise funds for the newly designed Q27

wenc|3 months ago

I just downloaded Google Keyboard (Gboard) and tried typing "thumbs up". It still screws it up.

Not sure if it's better that the iOS keyboard.

wdb|3 months ago

For some reason I have English&German, English&French keyboards and it always screws writing I just want a German or French keyboard when writing in that language. It's driving me crazy sometimes.

atonse|3 months ago

Geez lord I can’t believe this ever made it out of testing.

Even all the text selection stuff stinks.

Honestly I’m about to disable Apple Intelligence. I don’t know what’s going on there.

What is everyone working on over at apple?

Anyone checked if this still happens (it typed that as “halles” which isn’t even a word!) even after disabling Apple Intelligence?

javier2|3 months ago

Most text selection has also completely broken overt he last couple of iOS versions.

unsnap_biceps|3 months ago

I've been driving myself crazy over this. This video is a smoking gun proof that it's just broken.

javier2|3 months ago

I thought I was just incapable of learning. I find it so difficult to write on my ios keyboard.

gnubison|3 months ago

iOS repeated “learns” new words that I use that are misspellings of real words (because I mistype things in a predictable way). It becomes so convinced that it will autocorrect the real word into the typo. And knowing how the keyboard works, I wouldn’t be surprised if it enlarges the touch targets for the typo once it thinks I meant to use the typo.

The cause is obvious: Apple is training on what I type, not what I send. Apple does not consider that I actually care about the accuracy of what I send and will fix errors; perhaps they optimize for people who are careless enough to send typoed messages, yet niche enough to commonly use words not in the default dictionary.

It is infuriating that I have ~50 manual corrections telling Apple to leave words alone and correct certain typos to the real words.

wenc|3 months ago

I thought it was just iOS not being responsive enough to my thumb-typing speed.

But this was very validating to watch.

I love my iPhone but hate the iOS typing experience. It's so bad that I bought an external foldable Bluetooth keyboard that I keep in my bag just so that I could type longer emails.

I miss my BlackBerry keyboard.

firecall|3 months ago

Oh wow!

I thought it was just me!

louthy|3 months ago

Finally, confirmation that I’m not going mad! I remember when I got my first iPhone, back in the day, and demoing to a friend how it was almost impossible to misspell something when typing fast. That is just not the case now. Typing performance has got worse and worse.

Just typing out this comment has been infuriating.

wiseowise|3 months ago

This is what 400k salary, 12 rounds of leetcode, system design and circus dancing interviews gets you, apparently.