[ttkari]

I'm not sure I understand how an American company would be able to provide any service that could be "sovereign European".

[vander_elst]

How I can imagine it works: Amazon only provides the packaged software, the infra and the ops are officially driven by a 100% European company. AWS probably provides support, but they don't have the encryption keys not any access to the installation.

[Vespasian]

In theory Amazon could license the stack to a European Operator while having no operative access themselves.

I think this is already done in some cases altough the political reliability has not yet been tested.

[WJW]

I guess the question then becomes: what happens if some future US government pressures Amazon to revoke the license. Unless and until there's a good answer to that, it'd still be better to develop something locally.

[Muromec]

If I run your software, you can have no operational control, but you can sneak a root kit or some kind of stuff I dont want to have there

[nemomarx]

They must have something like this for China, right?

[Balinares]

By providing the software to be installed in clusters owned and operated by European companies.

The sovereign cloud spec designed by the folks at France's ANSSI agency is tight.

[deaux]

Whoops, the European company just got bought out by a US entity. Tough luck! [1]

Is this part of the spec? If not, it's as loose as a tent. And by "part of the spec" I mean "all your assets will be forcefully nationalized the second you or a parent company of yours becomes less than X% European owned", where X is well above 50.

[1] https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/11/dutch-looking-into-conseque...

[Havoc]

The Microsoft effort was not terrible - run by EU nationals etc but yeah calling it sovereign is optimistic.