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android521 | 3 months ago

The answer is friction. What % of this billion of users will bother to export their chat history (which is already a lot) and import another another llm. That number is too small to matter.

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adam_patarino|3 months ago

Since each chat is virtually independent there’s no switching cost. I’ve moved between Claude and ChatGPT with no cares.

It’s not like Facebook where all my friends stay behind

aranelsurion|3 months ago

> Since each chat is virtually independent

That hasn't been true for a while though. Open a new chat tab in ChatGPT and ask it "What do you know about me" to see it in action.

friendzis|3 months ago

Wrong ratio.

How many of those care about their own particular history in the first place and what % of those at least actively manage it outside of standard chat interface or even hop providers? I think that % would surprise you.

swexbe|3 months ago

All chat apps look exactly the same and have exactly the same features. The friction is basically non-existent compared to email services, social media, web browsers, &c.

ethmarks|3 months ago

I think it matters to more than you might think. A significant portion of the non-technical ChatGPT userbase get really attached to the model flavor.

The GPT-4o controversy is a good example. People got attached to 4o's emotional and enthusiastic response style. When GPT-5--which was much more terse and practical--rolled out, people got really upset because they were treating ChatGPT as a confident and friend, and were upset when it's personality changed.

In my experience, Gemini and Claude are much more helpful and terse than ChatGPT with less conversational padding. I can imagine that the people who value that conversational padding would have a similar reaction to Gemini or Claude as they did to GPT-5.

aurareturn|3 months ago

Yet, somehow I've been paying $20/month to ChatGPT for years now and I don't use Claude or Gemini even when they're free or have slightly better models.

chroma205|3 months ago

> The answer is friction.

Yet non-technical users switched from Edge/Safari to Google Chrome.

aurareturn|3 months ago

Because there is no data in a browser.

Even if there is, browsers made it easy to import/export bookmarks and history.

You don't see Instagram willingly giving up all their data on users to Tiktok right?