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jryle70 | 3 months ago

In a thread about survivor bias, and you fall for the same trap. How many people coming from wealthy background end up failing?

Take Bill Gates, his father cofounded a law firm, and his mother was a board members of several firms. That is a very wealthy background, but not outrageously so. How many people of the same level of wealth became successful businesspeople? It's said that his mom being on the same board as IBM's CEO at the time was a more instrumental factor to his eventual success than his family's wealth, and his own effort of course.

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majormajor|3 months ago

> It's said that his mom being on the same board as IBM's CEO at the time was a more instrumental factor to his eventual success than his family's wealth, and his own effort of course.

This sounds a lot like "his family's wealth was a more instrumental factor than his family's wealth" since "being on a board" is pretty rarified air. It's not Gates-himself-level wealthy, but what percentile is that? 90th? 95th? 99th?

sho_hn|3 months ago

> but not outrageously so

Compared to 99.99% of the 8.3bn people on the planet, yes.

HN never ceases to amaze me with its conception of what "wealthy and successful" means.

WalterBright|3 months ago

> his mom being on the same board as IBM's CEO

When IBM came knocking, Bill Gates referred them to Gary Kildall. Kildall (for whatever reason) muffed the deal, and Gates didn't pass on that opportunity again. Gary had the opportunity, and came from a middle class company. He invested in his company with his own resources.

WalterBright|3 months ago

Gates received $5000 from his family for his business.

I've read accounts of Microsoft's early days. It was self-sustaining very quickly.

I also know something about compilers and interpreters. BASIC of that era was simply not difficult to create. Yes, Gates & Allen had access to a PDP-10 at Harvard which helped. But it was not required, as Woz proved by writing Apple BASIC in a notebook and hand assembled it.

I also know that Hal Finney wrote a BASIC in 1978 or so that fit in a 2K EPROM (for Intellivision). As I recall, it didn't take him very long.

So no, Microsoft is simply not a result of massive infusions of money. An awful lot of people had the ability to create Microsoft, what they lacked was vision, drive, and willingness to risk.

And no, Gates and Allen were not going to starve if they failed, even without their parents' money.

raw_anon_1111|3 months ago

Okay can you name one successful modern day tech company whose founders didn’t come from money?

signatoremo|3 months ago

Not the OP, but I can name many: Andy Grove (Intel) , Steve Jobs (Apple), Larry Page, Sergei Brin (Google), Reed Hastings (Netflix), Michael Dell (Dell).

They all seem to come from solidly middle or upper middle class, so no poverty but not different than many of us on HN.

1659447091|3 months ago

While not a tech company founder, Oprah Winfrey created a media empire. She was born to a teenage mother in rural Mississippi (and poverty).

If someone wants a story about overcoming one's lot in life through grit, hard work and making the most of situations/opportunities her story is one you'll want; maybe not as relatable as the Bezos, Dell, Jobs, Musk etc but a story that poverty->billionaire entrepreneur can happen. There is also a reason she is the only one I can think of that fits description.

bluecalm|3 months ago

NVidia