[cuddlyogre]

>C++ is not that complex

Relative to what, exactly?

It is very hard to take a statement like yours seriously when even veteran developers continue to ship software with memory bugs that exfiltrate data and crash systems to this day.

[tovej]

When I said it's not complex I did not mean it's perfect or that it is easy to write flawless code in C++. And obviously C++ is most relevant within its own niche: video games, scientific computing, and performance critical software. The issues you mentioned are tradeoffs that C++ suffers from the higher degree of control a developer has. They're real, and that's a valid point.

What I meant was that if you wish to fully understand how the language works, I bet you that C++ has a clearer path to get there than Ruby does. The documentation and surrounding ecosystem of conference talks, content creators, and longer texts on new features is excellent. Not to mention public online communities like the irc channels on libera.chat.

The original poster I answered to was saying that C++ requires a lot of dedication to understand, but I would say this is true of every language, and C++ is very good at getting you there.

[smileson2]

> Relative to what, exactly?

Life